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GOP senator on Trump asking Ukraine, China for political help: 'Things happen'

Sen. Richard Shelby
Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., speaks with reporters in the Senate subway in the Capitol on Dec. 3, 2019. Copyright Bill Clark CQ-Roll Call, Inc via Getty Images file
Copyright Bill Clark CQ-Roll Call, Inc via Getty Images file
By Allan Smith with NBC News Politics
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"I didn't say it was OK," Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., told ABC's "This Week," adding, "people do things. Things happen."

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Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., on Sunday downplayed President Donald Trump's calls for Ukraine and China to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden, saying that "things happen."

During an interview with ABC's "This Week", host George Stephanopoulos asked Shelby, "Setting aside whether it's an impeachable offense, do you think it was proper for the president to solicit foreign interference in our election?"

"Well, I don't know that has been actually proven," Shelby said.

Stephanopoulos then pointed to Trump's public calls to have Ukraine and China probe the Bidens over the younger Biden's business dealings in the two countries.

Shelby said those calls were just political statements.

"I didn't say it was OK," Shelby said, adding, "people do things. Things happen."

"Well, this is the president of the United States," Stephanopoulos responded.

"Well, still the president of the United States is human," Shelby said. "And he's going to make mistakes of judgment and everything else. They have historically, both parties, both from the beginning of our republic."

Shelby added that he does not believe Trump's conduct is impeachable but said that "I still think we should wait and see what comes out in the trial itself."

As the Senate trial is set to begin Tuesday, Trump has insisted that none of his conduct with regard to Ukraine was wrong, tweeting last week: "I JUST GOT IMPEACHED FOR MAKING A PERFECT PHONE CALL!"

Last month, the House passed two articles of impeachment against the president. The first article charged Trump with abuse of power for pushing Ukraine to announce investigations into the Bidens and Democrats as he was withholding nearly $400 million in military aid to the country and an official White House visit for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy. The second article charged Trump with obstructing Congress' investigation into the president's efforts.

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