'Absent yourself': Transcripts reveal what Schiff told Gaetz when he crashed secure hearing

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Flanked by about two dozen House Republicans, Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., speaks during a news conference at the Capitol on Oct. 23, 2019. Gaetz held the press conference to call for transparency in impeachment inquiry. Copyright Alex Wong Getty Images
By Daniel Arkin with NBC News Politics
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There was a tense back-and-forth when Republicans who didn't belong were in the room during impeachment inquiry testimony.


The House committees leading the impeachment inquiry released transcripts on Friday detailing the moment Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla.,stormed the secure room where a deposition was taking place and interrupted the proceedings.

Gaetz and other Republican lawmakers were in the SCIF during testimony by Lara Cooper, a Pentagon official. In the transcript, Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif., is quoted as saying: "Mr. Gaetz, you're not permitted to be in the room. Please leave." At another point, Schiff tells Gaetz to "absent yourself" from the SCIF.

Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, ranking member on the House Oversight Committee and one of Trump's key allies in Congress, came to Gaetz's defense. He told Schiff that Gaetz is "going to stay and listen to the testimony," according to the transcript.

Gaetz insisted that he had a "right" to be there, asking Schiff if there was a "rule" the California lawmaker could cite that would bar Gaetz from entry to the SCIF.

In response, Schiff said: "You're not a member of this committee. This is conducted in closed session." He later added that he was "citing the House rules and the deposition rules. You are not permitted to be here."

Gaetz pressed Schiff to specify which rule was being cited, at which point Schiff said: "Mr. Gaetz, why don't you take your spectacle outside? This is not how we conduct ourselves in this committee."

"I've seen how you've conducted yourself in this committee," Gaetz replied. "I'd like to be here to observe."

Schiff then said: "We'll wait until Mr. Gaetz leaves before we begin."

It appears the proceedings resumed as planned sometime shortly after that exchange.

House rules only allow members to participate in depositions if they serve on the committees holding the depositions, which in the case of the impeachment inquiry are the House Intelligence, Foreign Affairs and Oversight committees.

Gaetz serves on the House Judiciary Committee.

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