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US election: Mike Pence clashes with Kamala Harris over coronavirus at VP debate

Mike Pence (left) and Kamala Harris (right) went head-to-head at the vice presidential debate
Mike Pence (left) and Kamala Harris (right) went head-to-head at the vice presidential debate Copyright AP Photo
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Wednesday night's debate is the only one scheduled for the two running mates of Donald Trump and Joe Biden - and they clashed over the handling of the pandemic.


Republican Mike Pence and Democrat Kamala Harris clashed over coronavirus as the only vice presidential debate of 2020 got underway on Wednesday night.

Trading barbs through plexiglass shields, the two candidates dissected the Donald Trump administration's handling of the pandemic, with Harris labelling it "the greatest failure of any presidential administration."

Pence, who leads the president’s COVID-19 task force, acknowledged that "our nation’s gone through a very challenging time this year," yet vigorously defended the administration’s overall response to a pandemic that has killed 210,000 Americans.

The meeting was far more civil than last week’s chaotic face-off between President Trump and Democrat Joe Biden, which unfolded against an outbreak of COVID-19 now hitting the highest levels of the US government. Trump spent three days at the hospital before returning to the White House on Monday, and more than a dozen White House and Pentagon officials are also infected, forcing even more into quarantine.

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Pence defended the US strategy against COVID-19, which has killed 210,000 AmericansJulio Cortez/AP

With less than four weeks before Election Day, the debate was one of the final opportunities for Trump and Pence to reset a contest that could be slipping away. They're hoping to move the campaign's focus away from the virus, but the president's infection — and his downplaying of the consequences — are making that challenging.

Trump and Biden are scheduled to debate again on October 15, though the status of that meeting is unclear. The president has said he wants to attend, but Biden says it shouldn't move forward if Trump still has coronavirus.

Republicans desperately want to cast the race as a choice between two candidates fighting to move the country in vastly different directions. Biden and Harris, they say, would pursue a far-left agenda bordering on socialism; the Democrats say Trump's administration will stoke racial and other divides, torpedo health care for people who aren't wealthy and otherwise undercut national strength.

Harris, 55, made history by becoming the first Black woman to stand on a vice presidential debate stage. She condemned the police killings of Breonna Taylor in Kentucky and George Floyd in Minnesota and spoke about the protests against racial injustice in policing that followed, which Trump has portrayed as "riots" as he calls for law-and-order.

"We are never going to condone violence but we must always fight for the values that we hold dear," Harris said. "I’m a former career prosecutor. I know what I’m talking about. Bad cops are bad for good cops."

Pence, 61, said his heart breaks for Taylor’s family but he trusts the US justice system. He called it "remarkable" that Harris, as a former attorney general and prosecutor, would question the grand jury’s decision in the case not to charge an officer with killing her.

He also pushed back against the existence of systemic racism in police departments and rejected the idea that law enforcement officers have a bias against minorities.

"I want everyone to know who puts on the uniform of law enforcement every day, President Trump and I stand with you," Pence said. "We don’t have to choose between supporting law enforcement, proving public safety and supporting our African American neighbours."

The candidates also clashed on taxes -- or specifically, Trump’s refusal to release his tax returns four years after repeatedly promising to do so. The New York Times reported last month that the president pays very little personal income tax but owes hundreds of millions of dollars in debt.

"It’d be really good to know who the president owes money to," Harris said.

"The one thing we know about Joe, he puts it all out there. He is honest, he is forthright," she added. "Donald Trump, on the other hand, has been about covering up everything."

Pence defended Trump as a job creator who has paid more than his fair share of taxes and shifted toward Biden: "On Day One, Joe Biden’s going to raise your taxes."

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Harris said the handling of the pandemic was the "greatest failure" of any administrationJulio Cortez/AP

Both candidates sidestepped difficult questions at times.

Pence refused to say whether climate change was an existential threat or whether Trump would accept the election results should he lose, while Harris declined to say whether Biden would push to expand the number of justices on the Supreme Court.


But so long as the coronavirus is ravaging the White House and killing several hundred Americans each day, the campaign will almost certainly be a referendum on the Trump administration’s inability to control the pandemic, which Republicans have sought to downplay or ignore altogether for several months.

Pence’s effort to focus on other topics was undercut by the mere fact that the candidates and moderator were separated by plexiglass shields, seated more than 12 feet apart and facing a crowd of masked audience members who faced expulsion if they removed their face coverings. The candidates on stage revealed test results earlier in the day proving they were not infected.

While the audience was forced to wear face masks throughout, second lady Karen Pence removed her mask as she joined her husband on stage at the end of the debate.

Though the night was about Pence and Harris, the men at the top of the ticket also made their presence known.

Trump released a video just three hours before the debate calling his diagnosis “a blessing in disguise” because it shed light on an experimental antibody combination that he credited for his improved condition — though neither he nor his doctors have a way of knowing whether the drug had that effect.


He tweeted several times during the debate, offering this assessment at one point: “Mike Pence is doing GREAT! She is a gaffe machine.”

Biden too kept a stream of tweets going; he posted his plans for confronting the virus, shared clips from the debate exchanges and praised Harris, who he said “is showing the American people why I chose her as my running mate.”

Mitchell McKinney is Director of the Political Communication Institute at the University of Missouri. Speaking to Good Morning Europe, he said Wednesday's debate may have been a missed opportunity for the Trump campaign.

"We're now in a position where it's the Trump-Pence ticket that needs to change perceptions, that needs to change attitudes. I didn't see anything tonight in terms of Vice President Pence's performance that would fundamentally alter the dynamics of this race.

Meanwhile Kamala Harris, McKinney said, used the debate to prosecute the record of the Trump-Pence administration.


_To listen to the full interview with Mitchell McKinney, click on the media player above. _

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